Esileht › Koroonaviirus COVID-19 › Koroonaviirus COVID-19

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Teema: Koroonaviirus COVID-19

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Tähesära
09.03.2020 19:33

ei, teste ei tasu ikka teha, rikub riigi maine ära
https://www.postimees.ee/6918337/tallinna-kunstigumnaasium-vottis-vastu-ettevaatusabinou-tobised-opilased-laksd-koju-tagasi
nad on külmetunud…sooja ilmaga.
Itaalial pea 100 surnut ja 1797 uut nakatunud ööpäevas. Aga ei-ei, meid see ei kohta.

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Sumomees
09.03.2020 19:35
#3382196:
#3382167:
#3382085:
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Muretsege korralik kompressoriga inhalaator, see on asjalikum rohtudest. Inhalaatori puudumise pärast pannaksegi kopsupõletikuhaiged sageli haiglasse.

Sa oled asjast valesti aru saanud. Inhalaatoriga ei tee mitte midagi ära. Umbes 10% kõikidest patsientidest vajavad intubeerimist, mis tähendab, et toru pannakse kurgust alla ja masin hingab inimese eest. See tähendab, et patsient on intensiivraviosakonnas, kus teadupärast ei ole sadu vabu kohti, mida koroona levimise korral vaja läheks.

Inhalaatoriga teeb vägagi ära. See laiendab bronhe ja hoiab seeläbi kopsupõletiku tekke ära. Kui juba oled nii kaugele lasknud, et on kopsupõletik, siis on tõesti hilja. Aga kui kohe köha tulles inhalaatorit kasutama hakkad, siis saad selle kopsupõletiku tekke ära hoida.

Aga kas lihtsalt kummeliauru tegemisest oleks kasu, sellise vanaaegse meetodiga – pesukauss, saunalina, keev kummelitõmmis ?

See ei ole nii efektiivne kui inhalaator.

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sini
09.03.2020 19:43

Ringvaates oli Heidit Kaio, kelle artilkid olid ka delfis.
Oli aru saada, et ta ei olekski kodus katantiinis, kui töökaaslased ja laste koolikaaslaste vanemad poleks vihjeid andnud, et tuleb olla kodus peale reisi. Uskumatu, et Eesti Naise peatoimetaja saab nii juhm olla, kuula ja imesta.

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Sygisv2rvid
09.03.2020 19:44

Itaalias täna 1797 uut juhtu, 97 surnut. Kohutav!!

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eastaurora2
09.03.2020 19:45

Vaadake vaid itaaliat.
10 000
500 peaaegu surnud tänase seisuga.

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eastaurora2
09.03.2020 19:46

Lihtsalt väike gripp 🙂

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paadund perekoolik
09.03.2020 19:47

Milline see tavaline inhalaator üldse on ja kas seda kasutatakse füsioloogilise lahusega või millega? Olen siiani teadnud vaid, et astmaatikutel on ravimiinhalaator ehk nn astmapiip.

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eastaurora2
09.03.2020 19:49

Ma kardan küll, et euroopa praeguse suhtumise juures ei jää eestlasi just palju alles.
Meid niigi vähe.
See epideemi ehk raugeb paari aastaga.

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koerakera
09.03.2020 20:09

Kägu, kes sa kirjutad kirjavigadega maailmalõpust, vandenõudest jms., soovitan sul mõneks ajaks internetist eemale hoida, et närve puhata. Ja kui endiselt arvad, et asjad on nii, nagu sa arvad, et nad on, siis tegutse. Pole ju mõtet siis enam foorumis hukatust kuulutada.

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Sumomees
09.03.2020 20:09
#3382225:

Itaalias täna 1797 uut juhtu, 97 surnut. Kohutav!!

No mis seal tahta selle karantiini eest põgenedes jaamades trügimisega.

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09.03.2020 20:16
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Ringvaates Itaalias elav eestlane ütles, et noortele ei tehtagi teste kuigi enesetunne on kehv. Järelikult on nakatunute arv palju suurem kui ametlikult.

no see on ju hea uudis – järelikult on suremus tegelikult väikem.

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09.03.2020 20:28
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Milline see tavaline inhalaator üldse on ja kas seda kasutatakse füsioloogilise lahusega või millega? Olen siiani teadnud vaid, et astmaatikutel on ravimiinhalaator ehk nn astmapiip.

Loe siit näiteks.

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09.03.2020 20:32

Kuulsin,et Kapa-Kohilas pidi ka liikvel olema ? On infot kellegil?

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Mari-
09.03.2020 20:34
#3382288:

Kuulsin,et Kapa-Kohilas pidi ka liikvel olema ? On infot kellegil?

“Kuulsin et” pole kunagi eriti tõsiseltvõetav.

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09.03.2020 20:35
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Muretsege korralik kompressoriga inhalaator, see on asjalikum rohtudest. Inhalaatori puudumise pärast pannaksegi kopsupõletikuhaiged sageli haiglasse.

Sa oled asjast valesti aru saanud. Inhalaatoriga ei tee mitte midagi ära. Umbes 10% kõikidest patsientidest vajavad intubeerimist, mis tähendab, et toru pannakse kurgust alla ja masin hingab inimese eest. See tähendab, et patsient on intensiivraviosakonnas, kus teadupärast ei ole sadu vabu kohti, mida koroona levimise korral vaja läheks.

Inhalaatoriga teeb vägagi ära. See laiendab bronhe ja hoiab seeläbi kopsupõletiku tekke ära. Kui juba oled nii kaugele lasknud, et on kopsupõletik, siis on tõesti hilja. Aga kui kohe köha tulles inhalaatorit kasutama hakkad, siis saad selle kopsupõletiku tekke ära hoida.

Aga kas lihtsalt kummeliauru tegemisest oleks kasu, sellise vanaaegse meetodiga – pesukauss, saunalina, keev kummelitõmmis ?

Inhalaatorist tulev aur on külm, see alandab paistetust.

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09.03.2020 20:48
#3382231:

Milline see tavaline inhalaator üldse on ja kas seda kasutatakse füsioloogilise lahusega või millega? Olen siiani teadnud vaid, et astmaatikutel on ravimiinhalaator ehk nn astmapiip.

Mina ostsin siit. Esperanza Zephyr ECN002 – 24 eurot millegagi. Töötab nagu miska juba mitu aastat. Viiruste perioodil asendamatu. Kasutan jah füsioloogilise lahusega.

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09.03.2020 20:56

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09.03.2020 21:03

Ma loodan, et kõik seda loevad:

https://maaleht.delfi.ee/uudised/koroonaviiruse-tulipunktis-tootavad-itaalia-arstid-hoiatavad-uute-ohtude-eest?id=89175357

Ja et inimesed võtavad aru pähe, lõpetavad selle arutu reisimise praegusel ajal, mis sest, et raha kaotsi läheb. Ei ole enam ohutuid piirkondi, viiruse võib saada igalt poolt Euroopast jm. Kui me ei taha seda põrgut, mis seal artiklis kirjeldatud on, Eestisse, siis peavad kõik aru saama, et see on kõigi vastutus.

Ja terviseamet peaks lõpetama selle häma, kuidas suurem osa inimesi selle kergel kujul läbi põeb. Sest vahet pole, üle teatud piiri haigete arv lööb uppi kogu tervishoiu, majanduse, surevad ka need, kel on muud terviseprobleemid, sest nemadki ei saa siis enam abi.

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mirimari8
09.03.2020 21:07

Mis koht see kapa-kohila veel on?

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09.03.2020 21:09
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Ringvaates oli Heidit Kaio, kelle artilkid olid ka delfis.

Oli aru saada, et ta ei olekski kodus katantiinis, kui töökaaslased ja laste koolikaaslaste vanemad poleks vihjeid andnud, et tuleb olla kodus peale reisi. Uskumatu, et Eesti Naise peatoimetaja saab nii juhm olla, kuula ja imesta.

Ma loodan, et ta osales saates telefoni või Skype’i vms teel, mitte ei roninud stuudiosse kohale?

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09.03.2020 21:13

Huvipärast hakkasin uurima gripipuhanguid Itaalias viimastel aastatel. Viimased 2 aastat ütlevad, et viimase 14-15 aasta jubedaim puhang, miljoneid haigeid. Tõsi, surmasid vähe, aga lihtsalt tekib küsimus, et mida itaallased valesti teevad, et nakkused nii meeletult seal levima kipuvad siis? Musitamine-kallistamine teretamiseks jne?

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09.03.2020 21:13
#3382339:
#3382224:

Ringvaates oli Heidit Kaio, kelle artilkid olid ka delfis.

Oli aru saada, et ta ei olekski kodus katantiinis, kui töökaaslased ja laste koolikaaslaste vanemad poleks vihjeid andnud, et tuleb olla kodus peale reisi. Uskumatu, et Eesti Naise peatoimetaja saab nii juhm olla, kuula ja imesta.

Ma loodan, et ta osales saates telefoni või Skype’i vms teel, mitte ei roninud stuudiosse kohale?

Skype, jah.

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pax tibi
09.03.2020 21:16
#3382345:
#3382339:
#3382224:

Ringvaates oli Heidit Kaio, kelle artilkid olid ka delfis.

Oli aru saada, et ta ei olekski kodus katantiinis, kui töökaaslased ja laste koolikaaslaste vanemad poleks vihjeid andnud, et tuleb olla kodus peale reisi. Uskumatu, et Eesti Naise peatoimetaja saab nii juhm olla, kuula ja imesta.

Ma loodan, et ta osales saates telefoni või Skype’i vms teel, mitte ei roninud stuudiosse kohale?

Skype, jah.

Niigi palju siis inimesel mõistust. Hea seegi.

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Tähesära
09.03.2020 21:26
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Huvipärast hakkasin uurima gripipuhanguid Itaalis viimastel aastatel. Viimased 2 aastat ütlevad, et viimase 14-15 aasta jubedaim puhang, miljoneid haigeid. Tõsi, surmasid vähe, aga lihtsalt tekib küsimus, et mida itaallased valesti teevad, et nakkused nii meeletult seal levima kipuvad siis? Musitamine-kallistamine teretamiseks jne?

Ehk tegelevad testimise ja õigete andmete avaldamisega.

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09.03.2020 21:29
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Ma loodan, et kõik seda loevad:

https://maaleht.delfi.ee/uudised/koroonaviiruse-tulipunktis-tootavad-itaalia-arstid-hoiatavad-uute-ohtude-eest?id=89175357

Ja et inimesed võtavad aru pähe, lõpetavad selle arutu reisimise praegusel ajal, mis sest, et raha kaotsi läheb. Ei ole enam ohutuid piirkondi, viiruse võib saada igalt poolt Euroopast jm. Kui me ei taha seda põrgut, mis seal artiklis kirjeldatud on, Eestisse, siis peavad kõik aru saama, et see on kõigi vastutus.

Ja terviseamet peaks lõpetama selle häma, kuidas suurem osa inimesi selle kergel kujul läbi põeb. Sest vahet pole, üle teatud piiri haigete arv lööb uppi kogu tervishoiu, majanduse, surevad ka need, kel on muud terviseprobleemid, sest nemadki ei saa siis enam abi.

Vastab tõele. Töötan Rootsis firmas, mille harufirma asub Itaalias – meditsiinivaldkond. Saime sarnase kirja täna Itaalia kolleegidelt. Päris karm seis on. Täna leiti ka Stockholmis juba juhud, kus nakatanu ei olnud ise reisinud, ega kellegagi riskipiirkonnast kokku puutunud. Töötas lihtsalt klienditeeninduses. Nüüd levib juba riigisiseselt. Esimene nakatunu siin oli 25 veebruar tänaseks on 250 ja iga päev tõuseb. Testitakse siingi valikuliselt. Ühesõnaga lootusetu. Loodame parimat, aga valmis tuleb olla halvimaks. Kõik koosolekud on suurfirmades tühistatud ja linn on üsna tühi. Enamus liigub trajektooril töö/kool-kodu. SAS tühistas täna 2000 lendu, sest 2 töötajat olid nakatunud ning samal ajal veel lennukis inimesi teenindanud. Siin võtavad inimesed õnneks seda 2 nädalast karantiini väga tõsiselt ning enamus firmasid maksab samal ajal ka töötasu muidu saad karantiini ajaks haiguslehe-on mingi eraldi reserv, kust see raha võetakse.

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09.03.2020 22:04

Kas Eestis vassitakse numbreid? Pea igal pool uued juhtumid, meil mitte midagi. Kümnest isegi ükski pole paranenud?

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09.03.2020 22:14

Eelda lihtsalt, et paljud põevad seda hetkel õnneks nii kergelt, et ei ole radarile sattunudki. Teiseks seda, et ilmselt veel rohkematel on haigus veel peiteajal — mõne nädala jooksul saab näha trendi, kui paljud meist haiglaravi vajavad ja kui paljud mitte. Ning viimaks, et kinnitada tervenemist, tuleks ju uuesti test teha? Nagu ma aru olen saanud, on praegu kõrgema prioriteediga uusi juhtumeid avastada, mitte olemasolevate kohta täpset statistikat teha.

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09.03.2020 22:38

Nüüd tuli juba ametlikult Rootsi nakkushaiguste piiramise ametkonna (on siin eraldi asutus selleks tervishoius) peaspetsialistilt range korraldus kõigile kodanikele “unustage reisimene vähemalt sügiseni väljaspool Skandinaaviat-elage selle teadmisega”. Neil käib juba see nakatanute “jälitamine” ja nendega kokkupuutunud inimeste protsess üle jõu. Nüüd on juba arstidel haigla siseselt õnnestunud nakatada mitte koroona-patsiente.
SAS koostab ka juba koondamispaketti töötajatele.

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09.03.2020 22:43

Miks te seda teete? Kas te tõesti arvate, et on veel keegi, kes pole sellest epideemiast kuulnud, ja tunnete kohustust neid valgustada?

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09.03.2020 22:44

Kui keegi viitsib vaadata inglise keeles, siis 60 min AUS, tegi päris mõtlemapaneva loo.

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